Willow Springs Monday June 2nd!

[ti2ttmatt]

This will be our first event at the Big Track this year. If you haven't been there, you should definitely check it out. It can be as FAST or slow as you want it to be and it is WIDE. Great fun and a slice of American race track history. It is the oldest, purpose built race track in the country. Who wants to come and play?

[mrlopez]

Probably Bryan since he's de one who can afford a monthly track day :)

[ti2ttmatt]

Probably Bryan since he's de one who can afford a monthly track day :)

He does seem to attend quite a few huh?? Good stuff though! That is the way to get faster. Seat Time!! See you at the next one I hope!

[aaw749r]

Sorry, allready committed to Laguna on the 3rd or I would.
Thanks for the offer.
Ray

[Calkidd]

This will be our first event at the Big Track this year. If you haven't been there, you should definitely check it out. It can be as FAST or slow as you want it to be and it is WIDE. Great fun and a slice of American race track history. It is the oldest, purpose built race track in the country. Who wants to come and play?
Man I should have bought a Big Dog Pass. Mmmmmm have to check with the wife on this one.

[speedjunkie]

whats the price running on this day?

be possible to get a B and C grounp sticker?

wanna get some track time on the new K7 1000

[Calkidd]

whats the price running on this day?

be possible to get a B and C grounp sticker?

wanna get some track time on the new K7 1000
140 for the day....

[speedjunkie]

sweeeet. just might do it then

[GsxR1000Ryda]

Its guna be tight, but if i can gather my funds by next month i think I can make it. As of right now ill need the track fee $$, new tires, rental suit, and a ride to get my bike there n back. DAMN.......................

[speedjunkie]

i can fit two in the back of my truck....

just be tight on space

[kidmoua]

daymn..this one is tempting too...

[ti2ttmatt]

whats the price running on this day?

be possible to get a B and C grounp sticker?

wanna get some track time on the new K7 1000

If the day is lightly attended, we can certainly work with some "group jumping." You just need to be respectful of the C group if you are a B rider etc.

[Calkidd]

If the day is lightly attended, we can certainly work with some "group jumping." You just need to be respectful of the C group if you are a B rider etc.
Yeah, don't do what I did last track day....I was passing in B like I was in A. You don't realize how close you are until Matt tells you...:o

[kidmoua]

Yeah, don't do what I did last track day....I was passing in B like I was in A. You don't realize how close you are until Matt tells you...:o

always causing trouble..

[speedjunkie]

Yeah, don't do what I did last track day....I was passing in B like I was in A. You don't realize how close you are until Matt tells you...:o

ya know the feeling, learned my lesson on that one

[ti2ttmatt]

Yeah, don't do what I did last track day....I was passing in B like I was in A. You don't realize how close you are until Matt tells you...:o

And NOWHERE is getting off the track safely as important as it is at Willow. The exit to the track is right at turn 8 and 9... the fastest section. You have to stay WAY left all the way through 8. There is a painted line out there. Cutting across 8 last minute to get off the track can be catastrophic.

Some of you guys really should come check out Willow, especially if you have only done Buttonwillow. It is certainly a lot of fun and different. It is funny to me that Streets and Willow Springs are in the same place. It is like someone said, "ok, we have the wide really fast track, now let's build a narrow, really technical one."

[GsxR1000Ryda]

so who wants to sponsor this trackday for me!?!?!?

[Calkidd]

And NOWHERE is getting off the track safely as important as it is at Willow. The exit to the track is right at turn 8 and 9... the fastest section. You have to stay WAY left all the way through 8. There is a painted line out there. Cutting across 8 last minute to get off the track can be catastrophic.

Some of you guys really should come check out Willow, especially if you have only done Buttonwillow. It is certainly a lot of fun and different. It is funny to me that Streets and Willow Springs are in the same place. It is like someone said, "ok, we have the wide really fast track, now let's build a narrow, really technical one."Ok ok ok....I get it..yes he is referring to me I did a bone head move out a BW this last time out.

[kidmoua]

Ok ok ok....I get it..yes he is referring to me I did a bone head move out a BW this last time out.

good going tough guy..blowing by noobs again

[speedjunkie]

cvr discount if its light and i wanna run 2 classes for extra seat time?

[ti2ttmatt]

cvr discount if its light and i wanna run 2 classes for extra seat time?

We will certainly see what we can do. As you ride with us, you will realize that we are pretty flexible on stuff like this especially if the turn out is light. We just ask in return that when we have to be a little more rigid on the days that are sold out, that we don't get any friction over it. We also, in the interest of fairness, can't go too overboard either. On the one hand it is a business, and a hard one at that, and Ti2TT would like to be around for years to come to provide these days for everyone.

[Calkidd]

I am really considering going to this. Where is a good place to stay Matt?

[ti2ttmatt]

I am really considering going to this. Where is a good place to stay Matt?

The Devonshire Inn is the closest to the track. It isn't the nicest place in the world but there is not much out there in Rosamond. There is a nice seedy dive bar around the corner for an adult libation or 2 the night before as well.

Other than that, the towns of Lancaster and Palmdale are both bigger and close and I think that they both have your typical selection of Motel 6's and such. We used to stay at the Essex House in Lancaster?? but they changed it to an old people's home. It was great... nice rooms, nice pool, and tavern inside of it with a pool table.

[speedjunkie]

We will certainly see what we can do. As you ride with us, you will realize that we are pretty flexible on stuff like this especially if the turn out is light. We just ask in return that when we have to be a little more rigid on the days that are sold out, that we don't get any friction over it. We also, in the interest of fairness, can't go too overboard either. On the one hand it is a business, and a hard one at that, and Ti2TT would like to be around for years to come to provide these days for everyone.

i understand, im not one to push to get something that is unreasonable. gonna try and make it out

[poach]

The AV Inn is always nice...and the free breakfast buffet is outstanding. No stale danish and raisin bran. Full blown bacon, egg, waffle, biscuits&gravy...ohhhh yeah baby!

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Oh yeah, 2 free cocktails at the saloon too. If'n you're into that sort of thing.;)

[Calkidd]

The AV Inn is always nice...and the free breakfast buffet is outstanding. No stale danish and raisin bran. Full blown bacon, egg, waffle, biscuits&gravy...ohhhh yeah baby!

*Edit*

Oh yeah, 2 free cocktails at the saloon too. If'n you're into that sort of thing.;)Is this in the same town as the track?

[kidmoua]

have fun guys..I wont be able to make it to this one

[ti2ttmatt]

The AV Inn is always nice...and the free breakfast buffet is outstanding. No stale danish and raisin bran. Full blown bacon, egg, waffle, biscuits&gravy...ohhhh yeah baby!

*Edit*

Oh yeah, 2 free cocktails at the saloon too. If'n you're into that sort of thing.;)

Where is this place? Are you sure that you aren't talking about the Essex House that is no longer around? Sounds awful similar.

[kidmoua]

Sounds awful similar.

haha..I like that..sounds awful

[poach]

Where is this place? Are you sure that you aren't talking about the Essex House that is no longer around? Sounds awful similar.


I'm quite sure indeed...we spend a wee bit of time at wsir and Palmcaster.

http://www.avibestwestern.com/

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Ifawful is what y'all want...then the Devonshire is definitely for you.:D

[ti2ttmatt]

I'm quite sure indeed...we spend a wee bit of time at wsir and Palmcaster.

http://www.avibestwestern.com/

*Edit*

Ifawful is what y'all want...then the Devonshire is definitely for you.:D

Well thank you so much. Maybe we will check that one out this time! Agreed on the Devonshire but it is close to the track and it is close to this seedy little dive bar around the corner that is good for a cold one or two.

[poach]

I think you guys will really like it. The AV Inn stepped up to the track sponsorship role vacated by the Essex...and the breakfast blows the essex into the cheap seats.

It's where I stay when I'm not booked at Dustbins's Hilltop Ponderosa.:)

[Calkidd]

Well I had a wake up call when I was looking how to get to the track. It will cost me just $120 in fuel for the vehicle alone not counting the fuel for the bike and the hotel is $90/night.

Anyone want to car pool and split the cost of the hotel?

[ti2ttmatt]

Well I had a wake up call when I was looking how to get to the track. It will cost me just $120 in fuel for the vehicle alone not counting the fuel for the bike and the hotel is $90/night.

Anyone want to car pool and split the cost of the hotel?

Oooh $90 a night huh??? Hmmmm the crappy old Devonshire may be the place after all then. Bryan, was that price with the "Willow Springs Discount." If you tell them that you are going to the track, they will cut you a break on the room.

They do allow camping at the track at Willow Springs as well, if that is something that interests ya. We will probably be camping there for the 4th of July 3 day extravaganza of 1 day at Streets and 2 days at the Big Track!

[Calkidd]

Oooh $90 a night huh??? Hmmmm the crappy old Devonshire may be the place after all then. Bryan, was that price with the "Willow Springs Discount." If you tell them that you are going to the track, they will cut you a break on the room.

They do allow camping at the track at Willow Springs as well, if that is something that interests ya. We will probably be camping there for the 4th of July 3 day extravaganza of 1 day at Streets and 2 days at the Big Track!
Yes, that is the "racers" price...

A small toyhauler is in the works probably something like a 24' bumper pull, but not sure in time for the 4th.

[ti2ttmatt]

Yes, that is the "racers" price...

A small toyhauler is in the works probably something like a 24' bumper pull, but not sure in time for the 4th.

Toy Hauler sounds about right for the 4th if you could make it happen. We will be grilling I think and having a few beers at night. If only Willow would let us have a fire pit...

Anyhew, If $90 is the "racer" price, I know that the Devonshire is closer to $60. It is true however that you get what you pay for and a full, real breakfast and the 2 free drinks at the bar, could easily eat up at least $20 of that difference. I think we are gonna try this new place and see how it goes.

[Calkidd]

I am still contemplating this...Are you talking about the AV Inn for the 2nd?

[ti2ttmatt]

I am still contemplating this...Are you talking about the AV Inn for the 2nd?

Yeah, I think so... I'll keep you posted as to who comes with our group. If there is an odd number or something, I'll let you know and they can split the room with you. Noone else from this board wants to come to Willow Springs and split a room with Bryan!?!?:confused:

[Calkidd]

Come on someone...anyone? You get to party with the infamous Matt and Aaron from TI2TT....

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Yeah, I think so... I'll keep you posted as to who comes with our group. If there is an odd number or something, I'll let you know and they can split the room with you. Noone else from this board wants to come to Willow Springs and split a room with Bryan!?!?:confused:

i would like to but I'm short on cash right now. that track sounds like a blast.

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what would it cost me to go on the 2nd?

[Calkidd]

what would it cost me to go on the 2nd?
The track day is $140 split the cost of gas and the hotel and ride up with me. Unless your truck will get better gas mileage than mine.

You know this looks like fun..

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The track day is $140 split the cost of gas and the hotel and ride up with me. Unless your truck will get better gas mileage than mine.

You know this looks like fun..

whats the radius of riverside at bw?

[Calkidd]

whats the radius of riverside at bw?

I have no idea, Matt would know. Is there any turns a WS that are similar to Riverside at BW Matt?

[ducbill996]

turns 8 and 9 are real fast... i go through them faster than i go through riverside...

that track is a lot of fun... it's not extremely technical, but it's fast and fun...

you guy's will like it...

watch out for turn 2... it tightens up at the exit, and rises up, so you cant really see the exit... it looks like it opens up so you get on the gas, but you cant see the exit, then when you do see it, you realize you are running wide...

[ti2ttmatt]

I have no idea, Matt would know. Is there any turns a WS that are similar to Riverside at BW Matt?

Willow is different than Buttonwillow pretty much all the way around. Willow is WIDE and fast. The only "technical" part is called the Omega. It is turns 3,4,5 and be careful of 3!! The rest of the track is so fast that it manages to bite people. It is uphill, a little oddly cambered, and is the area that we see about 80% of our crashes there. Turn 8,9 are Riverside on steroids, however only if you want them to be. You can cruise around Willow in 3 minutes or BLAST around it in under 1:20 so it is what you make of it.

[ti2ttmatt]

turns 8 and 9 are real fast... i go through them faster than i go through riverside...

that track is a lot of fun... it's not extremely technical, but it's fast and fun...

you guy's will like it...

watch out for turn 2... it tightens up at the exit, and rises up, so you cant really see the exit... it looks like it opens up so you get on the gas, but you cant see the exit, then when you do see it, you realize you are running wide...

+1!

[Calkidd]

Is WS a place for the 600? or should I tape up the 929? or should I bring them both?

[Calkidd]

whats the radius of riverside at bw?
Well are you in Byron?...If I have to go by myself I probably won't go. Going with someone else lessens amount of money spent.

[ti2ttmatt]

Is WS a place for the 600? or should I tape up the 929? or should I bring them both?

600's are fantastic for WS. They have all the normal classes that any other track has at their races. Rich Oliver competes, and does very well, every year in the Toyota 200 on a 250 2 stroke, and he is racing against the Jeremy Toyes and Jason Pridmores of the world on their SuperBikes!

We have people come out on Ninja 250's and all kinds of stuff. Most of our Control Riders are on 600's... It's just when you get older and fatter that you realize the, "If I can't be good, I may as well have a lot of horsepower..." mentality. Bring em both if you want. The only thing that we don't see a whole lot of at WS is motards.

Conversely there are usually quite a few of them at Streets as that track suits them better. I have a great time on my 1000 at Streets so...

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Well are you in Byron?...If I have to go by myself I probably won't go. Going with someone else lessens amount of money spent.

i don't know:confused: my jet ski is broken right now and i would like to get it running for summer. its going to take some money. and I'm going to mammoth next month..... so probably not.:( hit me up in the fall and I'm there!

[volcom415]

I think you would have fun on both. It definitely is not a huge hp track as I have seen many 600s with a skilled rider clobber liter bikes. You would have fun on a liter bike eating people up on the straights or you can have fun trying to keep up with the liter bikes on the straights. :D

Its a great track that flows well and is so wide that you can virtually pass anywhere...in my case, get passed everywhere :rolleyes:

You can go fast or slow and its still fun, there are a few turns like 2 and 8/9 that go on forever....if you like riverside I think you will like T2 its the shizzle.

Great elevation changes and pretty much everywhere is banked. You dont have to use your brakes very much and its a lot of throttle control so its a great place to learn about being smooth. Its fun wringing it up to 6th gear and holding it until you have to bang down the gears for T1...its also pretty fun entering T8 in 6th gear where you can really "hang em out"

[ducbill996]

I think you would have fun on both. It definitely is not a huge hp track as I have seen many 600s with a skilled rider clobber liter bikes. You would have fun on a liter bike eating people up on the straights or you can have fun trying to keep up with the liter bikes on the straights. :D

Its a great track that flows well and is so wide that you can virtually pass anywhere...in my case, get passed everywhere :rolleyes:

You can go fast or slow and its still fun, there are a few turns like 2 and 8/9 that go on forever....if you like riverside I think you will like T2 its the shizzle.

Great elevation changes and pretty much everywhere is banked. You dont have to use your brakes very much and its a lot of throttle control so its a great place to learn about being smooth. Its fun wringing it up to 6th gear and holding it until you have to bang down the gears for T1...its also pretty fun entering T8 in 6th gear where you can really "hang em out"


MAN!!! your bike must be really low geared....

[volcom415]

MAN!!! your bike must be really low geared....

Geared low? Im -1/+1 cause Im a cheap bastid and wanted to keep my stock chain. Did you mean I was geared high?
lol in any case its an awesome track. I think I have some footage that might give you an idea of what to expect ;)

[Calkidd]

Geared low? Im -1/+1 cause Im a cheap bastid and wanted to keep my stock chain. Did you mean I was geared high?
lol in any case its an awesome track. I think I have some footage that might give you an idea of what to expect ;)
I would love to see that footage.

[ducbill996]

Geared low? Im -1/+1 cause Im a cheap bastid and wanted to keep my stock chain. Did you mean I was geared high?
lol in any case its an awesome track. I think I have some footage that might give you an idea of what to expect ;)

my bike was geared -1 +4... i never got to the top of fifth.... my speedo was saying 165 going down the straight with a serious head wind... as usual at that track...:rolleyes:

my speedo picks up at the back wheel so the gearing doesn't affect the reading...

[ti2ttmatt]

my bike was geared -1 +4... i never got to the top of fifth.... my speedo was saying 165 going down the straight with a serious head wind... as usual at that track...:rolleyes:

my speedo picks up at the back wheel so the gearing doesn't affect the reading...

Gearing is subjective as people's speeds are VERY different, especially at WS! If you are in the 1:20's your gear selection etc is VERY different than if you are in the high 30's or low 40's. Doesn't sound like a huge difference but it is. There are also individual rider's preferences too. Sometimes people short shift in certain turns and others wring the damned things neck until it is about to POP. You two are talking about the difference between a pumped up 600 and a Ducati twin, so the conversation about gearing should probably end there. :D

[volcom415]

Gearing is subjective as people's speeds are VERY different, especially at WS! If you are in the 1:20's your gear selection etc is VERY different than if you are in the high 30's or low 40's. Doesn't sound like a huge difference but it is. There are also individual rider's preferences too. Sometimes people short shift in certain turns and others wring the damned things neck until it is about to POP. You two are talking about the difference between a pumped up 600 and a Ducati twin, so the conversation about gearing should probably end there. :D
what matt is kindly trying to say is that Im slow:D

[BlooDSMeaR]

Come on someone...anyone? You get to party with the infamous Matt and Aaron from TI2TT....

As long as you dont snore to loudly and party all night I'd be willing to split cost with you for a room it'll be worth it so I dont have to camp ...........

[ti2ttmatt]

what matt is kindly trying to say is that Im slow:D

No no no... I wouldn't say that about you as far as you know. I was just saying, different gearing, different bikes, no talk about lap times= too many variables. Where are you guys staying Sunday night? :cool:

[Calkidd]

No no no... I wouldn't say that about you as far as you know. I was just saying, different gearing, different bikes, no talk about lap times= too many variables. Where are you guys staying Sunday night? :cool:Well I pretty much wrote this one off and told the wife I wasn't going since it looked like I was the only one wanting to go. The only bad thing about this track day is I have to work the next day and WS is about a 3 hour drive back home. Plus, T hill is two weeks after this.

[kidmoua]

Well I pretty much wrote this one off and told the wife I wasn't going since it looked like I was the only one wanting to go. The only bad thing about this track day is I have to work the next day and WS is about a 3 hour drive back home. Plus, T hill is two weeks after this.

c'mon, you can do..being the all mighty silver sausage that you are

[Calkidd]

c'mon, you can do..being the all mighty silver sausage that you are
I would love to go, but I don't think it is feasible for me.

[kidmoua]

I would love to go, but I don't think it is feasible for me.

same here..

so you guys thinking about joining us for the 20th of July at TH?

[Calkidd]

same here..

so you guys thinking about joining us for the 20th of July at TH?
Actually, we are doing the 19th, because it is on a saturday. If we went on Sunday the 20th we (adrian and I) would have to drive home that night so he can go to work the next day.

[kidmoua]

doh... o well, Dan, myself and 5 other guys already sign up for the 20th..

[Calkidd]

doh... o well, Dan, myself and 5 other guys already sign up for the 20th..You realize you can cancel your reservation with Z2 up until 2 weeks prior. Saturday is much easier for Adrian and I to attend plus Adrian is my Track Dawg.

[volcom415]

Well I pretty much wrote this one off and told the wife I wasn't going since it looked like I was the only one wanting to go. The only bad thing about this track day is I have to work the next day and WS is about a 3 hour drive back home. Plus, T hill is two weeks after this.

C'mon Byran...we do it all the time...at least you arent matt and have a 7 hour drive home to work the next day.

We are in san diego and drive up and back the same day for the buttonwillow trackdays...its completely doable...you are usually on a high from the trackday and the drive home is not bad at all:D

[volcom415]

No no no... I wouldn't say that about you as far as you know. I was just saying, different gearing, different bikes, no talk about lap times= too many variables. Where are you guys staying Sunday night? :cool:
not sure yet. We can either do a motel 6 deally or av inn which is a lot nicer...knowing you....:D

the av inn has a nice bar and you get two free drinks per person...its about 90 and the motel 6 is about 50

[volcom415]

I would love to see that footage.

Here is just a little footage from last year
Willow Springs Big Track (http://gptechnical.net/Round%2012%202007.wmv)

[poach]

the av inn has a nice bar and you get two free drinks per person..


You actually get more if you're nice to the lonely gal who tends. But don't get too nice...there's a reason she's lonely.;)

[PRTSMN]

Actually, we are doing the 19th, because it is on a saturday. If we went on Sunday the 20th we (adrian and I) would have to drive home that night so he can go to work the next day.

Do you have a track bike & do you ride or trailer your bike to the track

[volcom415]

You actually get more if you're nice to the lonely gal who tends. But don't get too nice...there's a reason she's lonely.;)
Chris you got all the moves...:p

[poach]

^^youth and vigor are no match for age and treachery...

Hows the racing going this year bro?

[volcom415]

^^youth and vigor are no match for age and treachery...

Hows the racing going this year bro?

Finally got my pile up and running...its was an electrical problem that was cutting out fuel delivery intermittently...no bueno...like in T9 when Curtis Adams was rolling around the outside of me...lol

So I havent ridden it confidently since December. This past weekend was the first time back there at willow and it was also my first expert race weekend. I couldnt get it dialed in and was running anywhere from 31s to 33s....:confused: in practice.
I finally got my ish together for the 600 superstock race and ran my best time 28.5:rolleyes: so I was happy with that. Almost draft passed my buddy and missed it at the finish line by 0.03 seconds...:D

I want to do some rounds after its cooled down a bit...maybe a couple of wera rounds...fontana and vegas?
I might try for next month but thats not likely.


Come out and do a big willow day!

[volcom415]

As long as you dont snore to loudly and party all night I'd be willing to split cost with you for a room it'll be worth it so I dont have to camp ...........

There is a motel 6 off of Ave K thats only like 45-50 bucks:D

[poach]

Almost draft passed my buddy and missed it at the finish line by 0.03 seconds...:D

I sure know how that feels. On my last race at wsir last year John Ryan got me by .009sec for 1st place. Corner workers said they could hear me cussing a blue streak throughout the whole cool down lap. Oh well...

Anyway...sounds like you got the train heading in the right direction again. Good luck on future rounds. We gonna see ya at the streets for round 3 in Oct?

[volcom415]

I sure know how that feels. On my last race at wsir last year John Ryan got me by .009sec for 1st place. Corner workers said they could hear me cussing a blue streak throughout the whole cool down lap. Oh well...

Anyway...sounds like you got the train heading in the right direction again. Good luck on future rounds. We gonna see ya at the streets for round 3 in Oct?
lemme see when we do 4th of July there. I hear the repave is b!tchin!!!!

[poach]

lemme see when we do 4th of July there. I hear the repave is b!tchin!!!!


I dunno...I'm of 2 minds on this one. On one hand, yeah the T2-T6 re-pave is nice and def shaves a sec or so off most folks' lap times.

But on the other hand it does away with the penalty bump going into 4 and the grand canyon ditch at the apex of 6. Those were GREAT opportunities to make up some time or stretch a lead.

I guess it doesn't matter really though. We all have the same pavement to work with and let the best man win...

[Calkidd]

As long as you dont snore to loudly and party all night I'd be willing to split cost with you for a room it'll be worth it so I dont have to camp ...........Well now you go me thinking....Matt what hotel are you guys staying at?

[aaw749r]

I dunno...I'm of 2 minds on this one. On one hand, yeah the T2-T6 re-pave is nice and def shaves a sec or so off most folks' lap times.

But on the other hand it does away with the penalty bump going into 4 and the grand canyon ditch at the apex of 6. Those were GREAT opportunities to make up some time or stretch a lead.

I guess it doesn't matter really though. We all have the same pavement to work with and let the best man win...

Well, there are a few good ripples growing on the new pavement in the apex of turn 5 and the fast line out of turn 6 has a good bump just befor the transition from the new to old pavement that will lift the front end a little if you are on it hard. The new tarmack is "growing" character quickly.

[ti2ttmatt]

not sure yet. We can either do a motel 6 deally or av inn which is a lot nicer...knowing you....:D

the av inn has a nice bar and you get two free drinks per person...its about 90 and the motel 6 is about 50

Well Sean, you know me... High class all the way. I think we are gonna try the AV this time too. Although, Aaron, Evan, and I found this little dive bar that is like a bikini strip club around the corner from the Devonshire last time. Hmmmm. I think AV it is though. You kids gonna get there at a reasonable hour or roll in late again?!

[ti2ttmatt]

Finally got my pile up and running...its was an electrical problem that was cutting out fuel delivery intermittently...no bueno...like in T9 when Curtis Adams was rolling around the outside of me...lol

So I havent ridden it confidently since December. This past weekend was the first time back there at willow and it was also my first expert race weekend. I couldnt get it dialed in and was running anywhere from 31s to 33s....:confused: in practice.
I finally got my ish together for the 600 superstock race and ran my best time 28.5:rolleyes: so I was happy with that. Almost draft passed my buddy and missed it at the finish line by 0.03 seconds...:D

I want to do some rounds after its cooled down a bit...maybe a couple of wera rounds...fontana and vegas?
I might try for next month but thats not likely.


Come out and do a big willow day!

Got it back huh?! Alright!! Have to get some good footage out there. At this rate it is going to be a control rider party.

Well now you go me thinking....Matt what hotel are you guys staying at?

It looks like AV is the plan so... Whatcha think?

[kidmoua]

You realize you can cancel your reservation with Z2 up until 2 weeks prior. Saturday is much easier for Adrian and I to attend plus Adrian is my Track Dawg.

I would swap it for Saturday except I have like half a dozen other guys that are working on Saturday.

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hmmm??????? thinking????

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any one going?:confused:

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empty track sounds very tempting.

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i would definitely do a $100 track day Matt.. nudge nudge wink wink cheep cheep cheep.

[Bonkers]

My bike will not be ready ...I hope by 14th @ TH it will be ...

[BlooDSMeaR]

I'll go if my rear brakes come in .........

[ti2ttmatt]

I'll tell you guys what... If you are a CVR member as of today, 5/26, we will offer the day at $120! Like I said, there are VERY few sign ups, and we will likely only be running 2 groups. This equates to 1/2 hour sessions and a LOT of track time. If you want to sign up for the discounted rate, please call the business line at (619)819-8737 and let Aaron know that you want the CVR discounted rate of $120 and we will go from there! Hope to see some of you there.

[kidmoua]

daymn...... that's is just *****ing crazy low for a t/d:eek:

[Bonkers]

man wish i could but this is how my bike looks right now .. waiting on parts to show up ....

[Calkidd]

man wish i could but this is how my bike looks right now .. waiting on parts to show up ....Bring the Duc then....I might go now, but I need a partner to help me split the hotel and fuel cost.....Come on Rob tape up the Duc....

[volcom415]

I'll tell you guys what... If you are a CVR member as of today, 5/26, we will offer the day at $120! Like I said, there are VERY few sign ups, and we will likely only be running 2 groups. This equates to 1/2 hour sessions and a LOT of track time. If you want to sign up for the discounted rate, please call the business line at (619)819-8737 and let Aaron know that you want the CVR discounted rate of $120 and we will go from there! Hope to see some of you there.

wow thats freaking awesome!!!!!

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im going!

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anyone anyone????????anyone anyone?

[A Ninja Boot]

I can't go!! Someone at work has that day off. We need more relief drivers at my work.

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Bueller?????Bueller????? Kidd????????Kidd?

[speedjunkie]

budget is getting cut to tight right now for tires and trip up and all that jazz
:(

[Calkidd]

Bueller?????Bueller????? Kidd????????Kidd?
Yeah....Sweet...do you have my number Byron....I just got my new truck so if you want let's carpool it up.

If we can get a third person then it will be a very inexpensive track day...

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Yeah....Sweet...do you have my number Byron....I just got my new truck so if you want let's carpool it up.

If we can get a third person then it will be a very inexpensive track day...

no i don't. pm sent

[kidmoua]

so what truck did you get Bryan?

[Bonkers]

:D

[Calkidd]

so what truck did you get Bryan?
I wanted something with decent gas mileage but able to haul my trailer and bikes. I found a great deal on a 2005 Toyota Tacoma double cab long bed.

It is not a very good picture, this is the one from the listing. I haven't had a chance to take any other photos yet.

[Bonkers]

I wanted something with decent gas mileage but able to haul my trailer and bikes. I found a great deal on a 2005 Toyota Tacoma double cab long bed.

It is not a very good picture, this is the one from the listing. I haven't had a chance to take any other photos yet.

Gas mileage is for wimps ...:D
Still like the ideal of the truck i found for you ...i think you would look good driving it :D

[ducbill996]

those trucks don't get that good of gas mileage... you might have been better off with a chevy or gmc with displacement on demand... they are supposed to be getting a little over 20 mpg...

[Calkidd]

those trucks don't get that good of gas mileage... you might have been better off with a chevy or gmc with displacement on demand... they are supposed to be getting a little over 20 mpg...You find me a chevy for under 18K and less than 20k on the odometer and track record for being probably the most reliable manufacture on the road then we can talk. I still have my F150 Super Crew if I need to haul something heavier. My dad's 05 chevy was only averaging 17 mpg on the freeway. My truck will average around 20-22 mpg on the freeway and it has 245 hp with 282 ft/tq and weighs over 1000 lbs less than my Ford. My HP to weight ratio is much better than the Ford. Leg room is longer than my Ford and the overall wheel base is just a few inches shorter than my Ford.

Why you dissn' my new ride?

[Bonkers]

Im so glad i got Popcorn here at work ....
* Sits back want waits *

[kidmoua]

Good choice in getting that Taco Truck. I almost got one too but I decied on getting his bigger brother. That Taco truck will outlast your Ford, your Dad's Chevy and your mom's Buick...

Hopefully you weren't expecting to haul two bikes in that bed..

[Calkidd]

Good choice in getting that Taco Truck. I almost got one too but I decied on getting his bigger brother. That Taco truck will outlast your Ford, your Dad's Chevy and your mom's Buick...

Hopefully you weren't expecting to haul two bikes in that bed..
Mom has a Dodge Intrepid, but I get what you are saying.....

Haven't you seen my custom trailer I built? I don't need to haul the bike in the bed....

[kidmoua]

Mom has a Dodge Intrepid, but I get what you are saying.....

Haven't you seen my custom trailer I built? I don't need to haul the bike in the bed....

Dodge Intrepid..:eek: That's even worse

So you made that trailer yourself..? Nice.. Is it set up for 2 or 3 bikes?

[Calkidd]

Dodge Intrepid..:eek: That's even worse

So you made that trailer yourself..? Nice.. Is it set up for 2 or 3 bikes?Built with me bare hands...and it will hold three sportbikes has a storage container and a custom fuel jug rack for two 5 gallons fuel jugs.

[JJH]

So you made that trailer yourself..? Nice.. Is it set up for 2 or 3 bikes?

Dude, he gotz skillz! :rolleyes:

He can ride pretty quick to.

[kidmoua]

I knew he can ride but I didn't know he had that kind of mad skillz..mad props yo

[JJH]

I knew he can ride but I didn't know he had that kind of mad skillz..mad props yo

Werd! :D

[A Ninja Boot]

I get 16MPG towing two bike in a trailer driving my Ridgeline. I only bought the truck so I can store dead bodies in the trunk and or use it for keg parties.

[kidmoua]

I get 16MPG towing two bike in a trailer driving my Ridgeline. I only bought the truck so I can store dead bodies in the trunk and or use it for keg parties.

I do like the locking rear compartment in those barby trucks :D

[ducbill996]

You find me a chevy for under 18K and less than 20k on the odometer and track record for being probably the most reliable manufacture on the road then we can talk. I still have my F150 Super Crew if I need to haul something heavier. My dad's 05 chevy was only averaging 17 mpg on the freeway. My truck will average around 20-22 mpg on the freeway and it has 245 hp with 282 ft/tq and weighs over 1000 lbs less than my Ford. My HP to weight ratio is much better than the Ford. Leg room is longer than my Ford and the overall wheel base is just a few inches shorter than my Ford.

Why you dissn' my new ride?

your dad's truck doesn't have displacement on demand...

don't get me wrong, i am NOT a chevy fan by no means, but i had two late 90's GMC dually 4 x 4's and i had no prob's with either one... i take that back, the daytime running light relay went out on the '98... that is hardly a problem...

i think it's funny that the car's that people say are the most reliable car's, are the car's that come into my shop the most... as far as chevy trucks go, if you forget about the fuel pump's and intake gasket's, they dont really have much problem's... well except....:D

oh yeah, don't get me started on ford truck's...:eek:
oh yeah, we get all kinds of makes and model's in my shop, so i've seen pretty much everything...

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5 days!:D

[Calkidd]

Dude I totally forgot to look up the hotels last night, because I was putting in my new slipper clutch....:D I'll check today.

[PRTSMN]

your dad's truck doesn't have displacement on demand...

don't get me wrong, i am NOT a chevy fan by no means, but i had two late 90's GMC dually 4 x 4's and i had no prob's with either one... i take that back, the daytime running light relay went out on the '98... that is hardly a problem...

i think it's funny that the car's that people say are the most reliable car's, are the car's that come into my shop the most... as far as chevy trucks go, if you forget about the fuel pump's and intake gasket's, they dont really have much problem's... well except....:D

oh yeah, don't get me started on ford truck's...:eek:
oh yeah, we get all kinds of makes and model's in my shop, so i've seen pretty much everything...


All car makes have cars with problems. Sometimes i wonder if it is some type of job security. GM has several problems with various models. i think the most common are fuel pump level sensors, gauge clusters, window regulators , sun roof modules on the g6 with the 3pc glass. just to name a few.:D

[kidmoua]

Have fun and be safe out there guys. I want to see some videos and pictures when you two get back.

[PRTSMN]

Have fun and be safe out there guys. I want to see some videos and pictures when you two get back.

+1

[Calkidd]

I want to see some videos and pictures when you two get back.I will have to remember to bring the memory card this time. The internal memore will not hold but a few minutes. I follow Jeremy an entire session only to find out none of it was recorded.

BTW..

Byron made reservation at the AV Inn as mentioned previously in this post.

[volcom415]

cant wait for this!!!!!

High: 87 °F RealFeel®: 83 °F
Partly sunny and breezy:D:D:D:D:D:D

[yoageallen]

I'll be there hopefully with my zx6-rr! Can't wait!:D

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2 more days!:D

[ducbill996]

so who all is going?

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so who all is going?

Bryan , Adrian and my self :D

[Calkidd]

This is going to be a good time. Thanks Matt for the discounted rate.

We will be staying in at the Devonshire Inn (http://www.devonshireinn.com/). It doesn't look as bad as Matt was talking about.

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This is going to be a good time. Thanks Matt for the discounted rate.

We will be staying in at the Devonshire Inn (http://www.devonshireinn.com/). It doesn't look as bad as Matt was talking about.



so its not motel drive?

[Calkidd]

so its not motel drive?
No, more like Parkway Dr.

[yoageallen]

I am excited! The Ninja is all ready and I am healthy again, an I get to try a new track!:cool:

[Calkidd]

I am excited! The Ninja is all ready and I am healthy again, an I get to try a new track!:cool:
It is going to be a all new experience for you...New Bike, new shoulder and new track...

[Bonkers]

Sigh .... still waiting on parts ....have fun guys

[Calkidd]

Sigh .... still waiting on parts ....have fun guys
Awe, Robie....Sorry bro, but for sho T-Hill

[ducbill996]

Sigh .... still waiting on parts ....have fun guys

what parts you need? i prolly got 'em... or you can use my bike as a parts bike since it's apart right now too... puttin' on the ducati corse parts:D:D:D

[aaw749r]

I saw you guys Sunday afternoon on your way out. I was getting off 168 as you were about to get on. Good luck to you, have fun, and come back safe.

[JJH]

I'm jealous...

[kidmoua]

I'm jealous...

and the only cure for that is to join us for TH on July 20th

[JJH]

and the only cure for that is to join us for TH on July 20th

You lot are too good for me. I'll be jealous that day to.

[Bonkers]

what parts you need? i prolly got 'em... or you can use my bike as a parts bike since it's apart right now too... puttin' on the ducati corse parts:D:D:D

Thanks Bill but i dont need Duc parts .. i bought a used R1 to put on the track and mess around with .. i would die if i downed my duc on the track .. i have way to much time into her and love her way to much lol .:D

[Calkidd]

What a great day inspite of the high winds. It is amazing how fast Byron and Adrian got during the last half of the track day. We were all three out there dicing it up and having a good time. Adrian was kicking some butt on that new track bike of his.

As far as Willow Springs goes it was a good track, but don't think it a track worth a 3+ hour drive. I would rather spend the time driving to T-Hill if I am going to spend that kind of time on the road.

Again hats off to TI2TT for the hospitality and beer:D.

[kidmoua]

so did you guys get any pictures or videos

[Bonkers]

so did you guys get any pictures or videos

Not of the motel room please .... just the race track stuff :)

[seDUCtive]

Not of the motel room please .... just the race track stuff :)

:here: um.... no I want to see the hotel pictures... :here:

[ti2ttmatt]

What a great day inspite of the high winds. It is amazing how fast Byron and Adrian got during the last half of the track day. We were all three out there dicing it up and having a good time. Adrian was kicking some butt on that new track bike of his.

As far as Willow Springs goes it was a good track, but don't think it a track worth a 3+ hour drive. I would rather spend the time driving to T-Hill if I am going to spend that kind of time on the road.

Again hats off to TI2TT for the hospitality and beer:D.

Great day for sure!! Little windy in the afternoon but for Willow Springs that is pretty normal. 85 and sunny though.

I had a great time riding with you 3. Hope it was helpful and fun. I am super curious to hear how Bridgestone handles the tire issue that you had Bryan.

Willow is the kind of place that takes a little getting used to. The fun factor just gets higher and higher as you go faster and faster. Streets of Willow couldn't be more opposite so it is kinda cool having both of them at the same venue and sometimes the track day orgs get to run them back to back. You get one day of amazingly technical and one day of amazingly fast. Don't be too quick to write it off though because of the drive. Like everywhere else, it takes time to learn it and realize where you can go fast etc.

Good having you guys and hanging out the night before. Until next time!!

ps- Since you are in the business of trying new tracks, I can't stress Infineon enough!! Best track I have been on without question.

[Bonkers]

ps- Since you are in the business of trying new tracks, I can't stress Infineon enough!! Best track I have been on without question.




Ooo when we going?

[PRTSMN]

Not of the motel room please .... just the race track stuff :)

i agree with this one.:)

[Calkidd]

Ooo when we going?
It will be 10/27/08 with www.thetrackclub.com.....

You guys have PLENTY of notice so no excuses.

[JJH]

Tire troubles???

Did you get your misfire sorted, or did you take the 929?

[Calkidd]

Tire troubles???

Did you get your misfire sorted, or did you take the 929?Oh yeah I meant to tell you guys the misfire was a broken coil pack wire.

I bought a set of new Bridgestone 002 Race tires and they delaminated by the end of the day. I will try to post pictures.

[JJH]

Oh yeah I meant to tell you guys the misfire was a broken coil pack wire.

I bought a set of new Bridgestone 002 Race tires and they delaminated by the end of the day. I will try to post pictures.

That is not good... :th_down:

[Bonkers]

Oh yeah I meant to tell you guys the misfire was a broken coil pack wire.

I bought a set of new Bridgestone 002 Race tires and they delaminated by the end of the day. I will try to post pictures.

juast a wild guess.........wieght i would say ....:evilgrin0013::evilgrin0013::sumo:

[ducbill996]

so what did you guys think of the omega and turn 8 and 9???:D

[yoageallen]

Thank you Matt and Aaron for a great weekend! Take it to the track rocks! This was definitely the smoothest running track day I have been to in a while. No one got hurt, which is most important. This is a wonderful track if you like it fast. I learned a huge amount about riding very fast sweepers. I am had a great time. The track is nice and wide and it is not a track that will punish you for being off the race line. The end of the day even had a suprise. Four brand new Challenger RT's were unloaded and getting prepped for tuesday. These cars are amazing! Had a great day on the new ZX6rr track bike! No major problems and this bike is amazing to ride! I will enjoy this bike for a long while. A slipper clutch and a quick shifter are two very handy tools for the race track. Wish I had them on the 1098! This little bike rocks for the track. The liter bikes walked us on the strraights but It was so much easier to ride in the turns. Point and shoot baby!

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www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4hlxqSQvIc

[ti2ttmatt]

Thank you Matt and Aaron for a great weekend! Take it to the track rocks! This was definitely the smoothest running track day I have been to in a while. No one got hurt, which is most important. This is a wonderful track if you like it fast. I learned a huge amount about riding very fast sweepers. I am had a great time. The track is nice and wide and it is not a track that will punish you for being off the race line. The end of the day even had a suprise. Four brand new Challenger RT's were unloaded and getting prepped for tuesday. These cars are amazing! Had a great day on the new ZX6rr track bike! No major problems and this bike is amazing to ride! I will enjoy this bike for a long while. A slipper clutch and a quick shifter are two very handy tools for the race track. Wish I had them on the 1098! This little bike rocks for the track. The liter bikes walked us on the strraights but It was so much easier to ride in the turns. Point and shoot baby!

Nice Adrian!! Appreciate the Kudos. We do try very hard to provide a quality experience for everyone and as I have said before, alot of it depends on who shows up rider-wise. We only had 4 incidents yesterday with over 90 riders and none of them required any type of ambulatory service=good times.
Great doing a couple sessions with you. Once we got you cleaned up on the Omega there, you were really doing great. A little more experience around there and some getting used to the Kawi and you will be smoking it in no time. Good stuff.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4hlxqSQvIc

Great footage Byron. I hope you enjoyed the track. It really is a one of a kind. It is a high speed playground with very little technical and lots of width. The guys that go REALLY fast around there have stones the size of bowling balls. Jeremy Toye has done a 1:17.5 around there! I have squeaked out a couple of 1:28's just for a frame of reference and have no idea where those guys are making up that kind of time. Good for them. See you guys soon, and like I said, good hanging out the night before! We'll have to do it again.

[Calkidd]

That video doesn't show the true speed of what we were doing...Turn eight is an easy 130+ leaned over.....Woohoo what a rush....

[PRTSMN]

nice video thats awesome man i need to try that someday..

[ti2ttmatt]

Hey guys... Here is some video that I found from a guy named Dan Shaffner who is a Willow kinda guru racer guy. Very informative.

YouTube - Willow Springs Demo Lap

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That video doesn't show the true speed of what we were doing...Turn eight is an easy 130+ leaned over.....Woohoo what a rush....

what it does show is how fast that duc is! he gaped me on the front strate like i was riding a 250!

[Calkidd]

Oh yeah forgot to mention we had the prevlidge to ride with a Desmosedichi (sp?). That thing sounded wicked.

[kidmoua]

very nice..